I Don't Transcribe German

Episode 33

Nazi Infighting News Roundup

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This transcript has been lightly edited for readability.

Intro:

Hello and welcome to I Don't Speak German, the anti-Fascist podcast in which I, Jack Graham, and my friend Daniel Harper have conversations about the far right's conversations. Daniel tells me what he learned from years of going where few of us can bear to go and listening to what today's far right – the alt-right, white nationalists, white supremacists, nazis, etc. – talk about and say to each other in their safe spaces, their podcasts, their Youtube videos, their live streams, et cetera. The Waffle SS I call them, and do they waffle. Daniel listened so we don't have do. 1

Needless to say, these are terrible people and they say terrible things, so every episode comes with a big content warning. Daniel and I talk freely about despicable opinions and acts, and sometimes we have to repeat the despicable things that are said, including bigoted slur. So be warned. 2

[news segment jingle] 3

Jack:

And this is episode 33 of I Don't Speak German and, yeah, this is a news roundup episode. [sarcastic:] News roundup! News roundup about various nazi infighting. Which sounds like a lot of fun. Hi Daniel, how's everything? 4

Daniel:

It's [sarcastic:] News on the March, dun dun duuh! I don't know, I didn't rewatch any Citizen Kane this week, so – that's always my reference for news on the march, unfortunately. 5

Jack:

It'll do. You made the point. 6

Daniel:

That's me, up with the hip references from movies from 1941. 7

Jack:

Yeah, that's right. Up to date with what the kids are watching these days. 8

Daniel:

It's funny, we got almost entirely positive responses to us talking about Captain America. Except for the one person who just wanted us to talk more about Captain America. [laughs] I felt a little bad. 9

Jack:

Good! That's great. 10

Daniel:

A lot of our old-school fans really enjoyed it. But then there was one person, who I completely understand, [who] was just like you're just blaming a thing that's an apple for not being orange. Yeah, no, that's just kind of what we do. We just make life worse for everybody ultimately. But that's media criticism and this is a very regular listener. I have no personal animosity. It's a very friendly kind of ripping. 11

Anyway, we won't be doing that doing too often. 12

We might do it again here pretty soon. 13

Jack:

We weren't blaming a thing that's an apple for not being an orange. We were blaming a thing that's a bottle of strychnine for not being an orange. That's the question. 14

So yeah, anyway, on to – away from the question of dubious corporate media into our own media. As I say, it's News on the March, a news roundup about nazi infighting. 15

We're going to start with the gentlemen – I use the term very lightly – who appeared in a previous episode of this. Yeah, it's Captain America. No, it's not. It's Southern Dingo. There's some news about Southern Dingo, is that right? 16

Daniel:

[laughs] Yeah, there's some news about good old Dingo there. Our little Jefff. Fan of the pod, we can say. 17

Jack:

Apparently! 18

Daniel:

He did a full episode about our episode, episode 29, called I Don't Speak Bitch, Man. 19

Jack:

We do. 20

Daniel:

Definitely. I think we got under his skin just a little bit. It was pretty amusing. He was definitely, thoroughly impressed with the amount of knowledge that I had about their community. He counter-signaled me on quite a few things and said I was wrong on some details, and did a lot to correct my understanding of his community. 21

Jack:

[sarcastic:] Well, that was helpful of him. 22

Daniel:

Really, it's very helpful, especially when he inadvertently gives me information he doesn't know he's giving me, and so – Jeff, keep doing those. You don't even have to put them on the web site if you don't want. You can – please, just send me all the corrections you want. It's actually really helpful to me. 23

Jack:

Yeah, keep updating our knowledge! 24

Daniel:

There were some things that were wrong that were avoidable errors. 25

For instance, when I described the MAGA Peezy character I had mistaken some of the internal character dynamics of that bit. Apparently the house servant is not actually having a sexual relationship with MAGA Peezy. He's having a relationship with MAGA Peezy's daughter. I always thought there was a hint of gay relationship there as well, but I'm perfectly willing to be wrong there. 26

I had mistakenly said that Dingo's original co-host was Australian when in reality he was from South Africa and – I had just forgotten which continent he was from. That's entirely my fault. I do take some effort to be – 27

Jack:

It's the same [inaudible 05:05] 28

Daniel:

Especially when you listen to it at 2X. And you cannot listen to Southern Dingo's show without listening to it at 2X. It's absolutely insufferable. 29

Jack:

I can't listen to it at all. 30

Daniel:

Sometimes I want to put [this] shit up to 2.2. It's really a thing. 31

So anyway, I put I link to the I Don't Speak Bitch episode in the show notes here. So if you want to go look at it – I think currently it has about 565 views. Which is far fewer than the number of people who will listen to this episode. So please feel free to go bump up his numbers. He really does like the attention. It's pretty delightful. 32

I think it's worth noting there are a couple of things that I think – for one thing, he suggests that I'm probably Jewish. I'm not Jewish. I don't that think that – there is obviously nothing wrong with being Jewish, but I'm not. But he thinks I'm probably not Jewish because I didn't dox Mosin Nagant in the episode. He thinks that any real Jew would dox Mosin Nagant, right. 33

I only reveal personal information about people when I have some definite confirmation of it. When it's kind of openly available to people. And I don't have that for that dox. I wouldn't have any problem with giving his name on this podcast, except I don't have confirmation of it, ultimately. Although doxing is not something that I make a habit of doing. It's not – I'm known for not openly doxing people. It's not something that I feel is important. It's not something that's germane to this podcast. If I thought he was dangerous – which I think Mosin Nagant is, and I had personal information, I certainly wouldn't use this as the forum to do that. 34

Anyway. There's that. 35

He also – I'm not going to go through every details of what he said, but he admits a couple of things. There are basically three big topics. He admits that I know Cantwell better than anybody should. [laughs] 36

He's thoroughly impressed and even laughs at our coverage of Cantwell because we're just making fun of Cantwell. And he was formerly – I'd forgotten to mention this, but Dingo used to call into Cantwell's show on a regular basis. And then at one point he does – after the Cantwell drama, he completely dissociated himself. But he hung on the Cantwell train longer than just about anybody did. So he is just delighted of us making fun of Cantwell. 37

And he agrees that I know a whole lot about him, Dingo, personally. In terms of knowing the memes, even though – he says of himself, I'm not an overt siegepiller, and I said he was an overt siegepiller. I don't thing he listened to episode 28, where I defined the siegepill community a little bit more broadly. 38

Southern Dingo was well known for not being a person who likes to read, and so he's not read Siege. While he mores interested in building a movement than in cheering on terrorists, he's also someone who hangs out in the siegepill community. He's thoroughly invested in them. 39

If he's slightly more sanguine than others about cheering on mass shooters, he's still – he released a video saying that this guy ChuckE2009, who's a big-time welder on Youtube, who has a bunch of welding videos – he had like a million subscribers or something, and he read the Brenton Tarrant manifesto, the Christchurch shooter manifesto, on his channel. He said, this is a thing that could change the pro-white right, et cetera. 40

If you're sitting and you're reading these manifesto and encouraging this kind of thing, even if you're not actively saying people should go an commit mass shooting, you're in the siegepill community. If you want to say overt is a little bit of a misstatement, fine. 41

Anyway. 42

So Dingo admits that I know Dingo very well. And that I know Cantwell very well. But he says I don't know the Bowl Patrol very well. He says that I don't understand the meme culture, and the way that they're always joking about these things, and that Mackey and a lot of these other characters are not actually dangerous, right? 43

And here – while I admit that Dingo knows these guys personally better than I do, I think Dingo was either gaslighting us or he's completely mistaken. And the reason I know that is because I know about the story of a man named Jarrett William Smith. This story happened after I Don't Speak German episode 29 dropped 44

Jarrett William Smith, I have a piece available here, it's in the show notesFBI arrests army soldier who allegedly discussed plans to bomb major American news network. This is a man named Jarrett Smith who was a military officer. He's in the army. He's 24 years old. He was stationed in Kansas. And he was hanging out in the Bowl Patrol Telegram group and was talking to an FBI agent who was undercover in that group, and provided details of how to make bombs in private chats to an undercover FBI agent. Which is a really bright thing to do. 45

[He] did this on several, at least two or three occasions. And with no – not joking. Like, oh yeah, this is how you do this. I have screenshots of him saying about how he has killed people in the past. Maybe that's him bullshitting, but this is definitely – if you want to say this is dark humor, it's dark humor. 46

But more interestingly, at least in terms of you and I, and that's kind of become part of the story – 47

Jack:

Yeah, we are the news. 48

Daniel:

Well, let's just read count 3 – we are the news, let's just read count 3 of this indictment. This is the amended indictment, and I have this posted here. 49

Counts 1 and 2 are basically, he threatens Beto O'Rourke, vaguely, and he threatens a news organization, which CNN claims to be. It's them, so they have some kind of background information. So anyway. We're not going to read those two. I'm going to link it so you can look at it. I'm not interested in Jarrett William Smith personally, but he was Anti-Kosmic 2182 on the Bowl Patrol forum. He's been around kind of forever. He's a guy who trained with a guy who trained in the Ukraine under – with something I think called Asov Battalion. He was working with a far-right international network of paramilitary groups. 50

And, well, let's just read count 3. This is Threatening Interstate Communication. 51

And it says, 52

On or about September 20, 2019, in the district of Kansas and also in the jurisdiction of the Court, the defendant, Jarrett William Smith, knowingly and willfully transmitted in interstate and foreign commerce from the State of Kansas to the State of Michigan a communication describing a plan to attack a specific home and recommending a specific product or device to use in gaining entry to that home, and the communication contained a threat to injure D. H. (whose identity is known to the Grand Jury), specifically by threatening to set fire to the home belonging to D. H. 53

All in violation of – 54

and then it's got a reference to a legal code. 55

Now, I'm not going to read the exact thing that he posted there, but that's a fair summary. 56

This was in response to someone in the – someone with admin access to the Bowl Patrol chat posting I Don't Speak German episode 29. This is a guy who's well known to that group. He was a regular commenter there. He has contact not directly to Atomwaffen Division, but he has contact with Feuerkrieg division, which is sort of an offshoot of AWD. There are a whole bunch of these groups going on. 57

The idea that there is no connection between Atomwaffen and the Bowl Patrol is ludicrous to anyone who understands anything about the inside of these movements. And Dingo is saying, no, I've never heard anyone say, oh, I'm going to hang out with so-and-so from AWD. Dingo is just deluding himself here. 58

Dingo, if you hear this: please, you should leave the movement before bad things happen to you because you're associating with some really awful people... who threaten to burn my house down. 59

Jack:

Stop, Dingo, because it's bad. 60

Daniel:

[laughs] It is. 61

So, I'm kind of laughing about this. But – again, I take this completely seriously. I don't think Jarrett Smith was – he's not sitting there and saying – I don't think this is an overt plan, because it was posted like three minutes after someone put the episode in the chat. But he's definitely saying, well, this is a cool thing for people to do. Even in the thing he says, I'm not saying anything should do anything illegal here, of course, I'm just saying, if you wanted to – this is the way you go burn this guy's house down without being detected. 62

Yeah. Anybody who says these people aren't – that happened. 63

And so we're now part of the story. Congratulations, Jack, I think when you met me a few years ago you never expected this was were this friendship was going to go. 64

Jack:

[sarcastic:] Not exactly. 65

Daniel:

I'm not going to talk too much more about this. 66

Let's just say, precautions have been made. 67

I think it's time to move on and talk about the – in the aftermath of this indictment and this arrest, which I take no responsibility [for] – this has very little do to with us, it's sort of all connected to the thing. 68

James Mason himself released 12-minute, 45-second bit of audio, encouraging people not to commit crimes, or at least not to talk about committing crimes. This is the exact same kind of language that's in Siege, to be honest. You can read it one of two ways. You can read it as, he's actually saying don't go and commit crimes, or you can read it as this is how you keep up your ability to continue to do this work for 40 years, which he has, by saying let's not – you can't overtly say, let's go commit crimes, or the feds are going to come after you. 69

In this sense, Jarrett Smith was doing to absolutely dumbest thing he possibly could have done, by sitting and joking about that. In particular, doing it to a person he didn't know was an undercover FBI agent. And this is exact line that Goy Talk Live [is taking]. Go Talk Live is now back, and when this story came out, they were saying he's just a fucking dipshit. They're making fun of him – don't do this, none of our fans should go and talk about this in this way because you're just going to get yourself in trouble. 70

And so yeah, that's just the reality of it. They keep just on that side of legality and don't actually threaten people and don't actually tell people how to make bombs. And the whole point is to – I think we're ultimately leading into an era in which more and more of these guys are going to start basically setting up militia groups, or paramilitary groups, in the woods or in the suburbs or whatever, kind of building stuff and doing actions without tweeting about it. Or without putting it on Telegram. And in some ways that's just the standard-issue stuff that white nationalist militia groups have been doing for forty years. So, more of the same to some degree. But, yeah, they've learned to stop shitposting, basically. 71

Although – this happened since last week. We were going to do this episode last week. Obviously there was another mass shooting event that was live streamed, to Twitch this time. You had this guy in – the Halle shooting. This guy, a 27-year-old German citizen – I'm reading from Wikipedia right now because it was just easy to pull up. Named, by the media, Stephan Balliet. Not sure how he's pronouncing that name. I'm not even sure I got Halle right. As you should know if you listen to this podcast, I don't speak German. 72

Jack:

I think it's about right. 73

Daniel:

I did watch the video. 74

There is a sixteen-second version that he put out there, which was him saying, I'm doing this because I hate Jewish people, because I don't think the Holocaust happened. It's clearly – so many of these guys don't name the Jew hard enough and so they get disavowed by the movement. Like, oh no, that's not one of us. This is – he's absolutely one of them. 75

And then he does a 36-minute video where he drives up to a synagogue in Halle and can't get in the door, because they have security, tries to blow it up with homemade bombs. And he has a manifesto. I've read the manifesto. It's mostly describing the preparations he made for the attack as opposed to discussing ideology. There is a little bit of the ideology stuff. It's pretty boilerplate at this point. 76

Interestingly he actually only kills – only, excuse me, in quotation marks – he only kills two people, partly because he's using homemade guns that jam constantly. And he's not able to get into the synagogue, and then he moves on to a local kebab shop down the street and kills another person just kind of shooting through a window there. 77

Jack:

[sarcastic:] Great. The master race, everybody. Well done. 78

Daniel:

Right. So we're still kind of piecing the details [of] that [together]. It's funny that – we could go through the details of the manifesto and everything, but ultimately, if you've been listening to this show for long enough, I think you kind of get what's going on here. 79

Jack:

Yeah. This is very explicitly inspired by Christchurch as well, isn't it. 80

Daniel:

Right. The Christchurch massacre showed them how to do this. It showed them how to get a lot of attention. And ultimately none of them have been – sorry to use [this] – they haven't been as good as the Christchurch shooter. They haven't put the pieces together in the same way. Or had the resources to do it. It just kind of proves that Brenton Tarrant was skilled at how to do mass murder. Or maybe they've beefed up security precautions. 81

But this kid – sorry, he's 27 years old – this dipshit, this fuckhead, this terrorist goes to shoot up a – this nazi, this piece of nazi filth goes to attack, with bombs, with homemade bombs and homemade guns, to annihilate a synagogue on Yom Kippur. 82

It's just the vilest kind of thing imaginable. And what do all the nazis say, what do all these shows – even the more mainstreamer shows, the movementarian stuff, they say two things. One, well, compare that to all the black crime that's happening in Chicago. Obviously there's way more black-on-white crime that in the [other direction]. 83

Okay, I'll tell you what. 84

When we have as many resources dedicated to white nationalist violence as we do policing ordinary black people going about their day, then maybe you can complain about that. We clearly do nothing about ordinary inner-city crime in this country. 85

Obviously I'm not supporting the police state for either of these things. Obviously there's a lot more going on than that. But to pretend that nobody cares about African Americans committing crime – there's an entire justice system that's been doing this for a hundred and fifty years, you fucking nazi shits. That's just not a reasonable – even beyond the factual nature of anything, it's just [a] complete not sequitur. 86

Jack:

Complete different thing. 87

Daniel:

The other talking point that they always say is, like, well, this isn't really us, ultimately, we're not encouraging this, we're just – this is just people naturally responding to the conditions in this society. 88

This is part of that Mason audio that I told you about. Mason uses this line. Everybody uses this line. 89

Cantwell, in the episode he released on Friday, he clipped that 36-minute episode into about six or seven minutes and played it at the beginning of his episode. He talks about it as, look, these guys, they're popping off, they're doing this because we're not allowed to build a wall, we're not allowed to actually talk about how we need to get rid of all the brown people and make an all-white society. Wouldn't you rather deal with us than them? 90

This is these groups interact with each other. This is how the mainstreamers and the vanguardists, or the siegepillers and the movementarians, however we want to define these two broad groups, this is how they feed on each other. 91

When mainstream support leads to activities of state to commit state violence against minorities, and other despised people within this ideology, they let that happen. When that stops happening with the same degree, they go back and they start committing acts of violence on their own, for their own reasons. They play against each other. It's absolutely vile. 92

Honestly, I don't know, I'm kind of repeating stuff we've already said a couple of times. I'm just reiterating it here. This is what's happening, you know. They threatened a podcast for talking about their ideology. They threatened to burn somebody's house down for releasing a podcast episode talking about the things that they say. 93

Jack:

Yeah, exactly. Just listening to what they say, in public, and repeating it. That's – they threatened to burn your house down. [laughs] 94

Daniel:

Dingo literally called me a spy. Like, he's been the guy spying on our shit, man. You're releasing podcast, publicly, you know. This isn't in a Discord chat or in a Telegram group. You put in on Youtube. Anybody can watch this, you know. What do you mean, spying on you. 95

Jack:

Did you know, listeners, that you're spying on us right now. 96

Daniel:

[laughs] 97

Jack:

Stop listening to what we're saying to each other, you spies. 98

I feel perfectly justified in threatening to burn down any of your houses just for listening to this, you fucking spies. How dare you. [laughs] 99

Daniel:

[laughs] Fucking spies, listening to the thing that we put out there publicly, for public consumption, how dare you. 100

Jack:

Knowing things that I chose to tell you, you bastards. [laughs] 101

Daniel:

Dingo also said – and you should be really happy about this, he actually says he hates you, Jack, more than he hates me. 102

Jack:

Oh yeah? 103

Daniel:

Because at one point I was talking about PaddockSperg and how he didn't want to ride on public transportation. Like, he was kind of forced to ride on public transportation with African Americans and he thought that was disgusting and he couldn't take it. And you just said the word good. 104

Jack:

Yup. I remember that. 105

Daniel:

Dingo took real offense at that. It was pretty delightful. He called you I think a British cunt, a butter-toothed British cunt or something to that effect. 106

Jack:

That's pretty accurate. But you know what I say to that in response: good 107

Daniel:

[laughs] He's like, I hate this British cunt even more than I hate – and I'm sorry to sorry the word over and over again, but he did, so – we put content warnings on these. 108

Jack:

We do. 109

Daniel:

I hate this guy even more than I hate the guy who's been spying on us because – he just thinks you're really smarmy. It was just a delightful thing. 110

Jack:

That's great. 111

Daniel:

I'm so in his head that even in a later episode he was watching a video of some white person who was apparently – some piece of video he got from somewhere, some security camera video where – there was an assault that happened, where some vaguely non-white people were attacking a white person. 112

They play these videos all the time and kind of respond to them highly emotionally. We'll never going to defend random assaults here, but – we're going to talk about the causes of crime and how to prevent that. It's just nonsense. This is not built around a genetic propensity for crime as much as it builds on centuries of poverty and lack of wealth, et cetera. Again, we don't defend random acts of violence. Regardless of who the victim is. 113

But then he got so angry about it, watching this video. He got so upset talking about it. And he says, and you should watch this, Daniel Harper. You should see this and explain this. Just randomly. I was anywhere in this conversation, and suddenly he just has to spurt out to me, knowing that I'm listening to him. 114

Jack:

Been preying on his mind, obviously. It's in there the whole time, lurking. Daniel Harper. What if – I wish Daniel Harper could see this. [laughs] 115

Daniel:

Defend this random assault that happened. Please. Tell us why we shouldn't be angry about this. 116

Jack:

You know, centuries of poverty and oppression and systemic alienation, that has no bearing whatsoever on crime. Whatsoever. There is no context for crime whatsoever. That enormous material, historic, or social background has no bearing on it whatsoever. 117

But when one of them walks into synagogue, or tries to walk into a synagogue and murder a load of people just for being Jewish – well, what do you expect, these people, they're just losing their rag, and it's not their folk. They're being driven to it et cetera, et cetera. They've always got an excuse. Everybody else, even though they're doing lesser things, is just inherently evil. Because they're just a bunch of fucking hypocrites. 118

Daniel:

Indeed. And stupid ahistorical nonsense anyway. 119

Jack:

Yeah, ignoramuses as well. 120

Daniel:

So that's Dingo. 121

I think we can be done talking about Dingo for now. I was just delighted watching that video. He got so upset. There is more. I thought about doing a whole episode just responding to it, but – don't bother. Dingo, if you listen to this – I might DM him this episode just to make sure he sees it, but – Dingo, Jeff, if you're listening to this, I would highly recommend, please go back and correct all my previous episodes. 122

In particular I'd like to hear you correct the one on The Right Stuff, episode 9. Please tell me all the juicy details about Mike Enoch, because I know you used to work with those guys, so... please let me know. Let me know anything that I missed there. I could definitely use the detail on that, so... 123

I guess we can talk about other nazi infighting now, because there's a ton of it. We could do a whole episode just on Cantwell News. This happened over the weekend. I'll just throw this in here. 124

Jack:

I'm starting to think Cantwell News should have its own jingle. I think we should do – we should get someone to compose a jingle to introduce the Cantwell News segment. 125

Daniel:

Yeah, like a news bit. Du du du du du dudu dudu, Cantwell News. 126

Jack:

I see what I can come up with. 127

Daniel:

There's more Cantwell here. We'll talk a bit about Cantwell here shortly. But just over last weekend – he goes to see the Joker movie, he posts on Telegram – 128

Jack:

[sarcastic:] Oh, is there a Joker movie? I didn't realize. 129

Daniel:

[sarcastic:] It's coming on under the radar, really. 130

Jack:

Yeah... sorry, go on. 131

Daniel:

He posts to his Telegram, I'm going to see Joker, and I've got a gun. And somebody saw that and then called the Keene, New Hampshire cops, and they shut down the screening. 132

Jack:

[laughs] 133

Daniel:

And they brought him out and talked to him about it. And he declares victory because, oh look, I'm in these antifa heads, these communists. You got literally sat down, you're a man who's – I mean, yes, he's joking, until he's not, right. 134

Jack:

[sarcastic:] He's a Joker. 135

Daniel:

Local cops know exactly who the fuck you fucking are, you fucking dickhead. And he admits that the cops know who he is. He's been antagonizing them for years. And now he's trying to be all best buds with them. Yeah, I guarantee you, the Keene cops, they track exactly where he is at any given time. It's remarkable. They knew exactly where he was. 136

Anyway. That's just [a] random thing that happens in Cantwell's life. [laughs] On a regular basis. 137

Jack:

[laughs] You're right. That's just his life. 138

Daniel:

[laughs] That's not even worth mentioning, except it just happened two days ago and I'm just laughing about it because he was talking about it on his show. And he's talking about how the communists are after me. All I did was vaguely threaten to shoot up this place and the cops came and found me. 139

Jack:

[sarcastic:] All I did was sort of almost hint that I was going to shoot up a screening of a film. That's all I did. 140

Daniel:

Famously, the whole thing with – the media and law enforcement blew that completely out of proportion – 141

Jack:

[sarcastic:] Totally, yeah. 142

Daniel:

In terms of the threat of incels were going to shoot up Joker screenings. I understand that it's completely based on their anti-terrorist groups that get paid to essentially rebrand, to put their stamp of approval on work that other people do for free and then charge law enforcement for it. And then the law enforcement agencies need justification for paying that money, for all that data they can get for free, if they just did their jobs. And then this is how these kinds of things happen. It's pretty remarkable. I was watching that one happen in real time and going like, what the fuck. 143

Anyway. 144

There is drama going on between people who are not Chris Cantwell and [Chris Cantwell]. 145

This kind of dropped, initially – this is where I kind of have to apologize because this episode is going to be, nominally, more rambling and news coverage than the other ones. But also – you kind of have to know who these figures are. We talked about Cantwell, we talked about Dingo. Really, we'll – I'll try to put links to the previous episodes. We try to keep these fairly self-contained, this one is in no way self-contained. Because I'm going to talk about Andrew Anglin and the Right Stuff guys and we'll talk more about Cantwell and some other figures that we've kind of mentioned in passing. There's just no other way to do it. So, yeah, Andrew Anglin – 146

Jack:

I've been rewatching the first season of the X Files recently, just for amusement. And it's just struck me. Usually our episodes are monster-of-the-week, this is an arc episode, this one. You need to be up on the lore for this one. 147

Daniel:

[laughing:] Right. I've always been a fan of monster-of-the-week TV shows as opposed to the lore ones, but ultimately, we got to tie some loose ends together. Normally we would have covered this a bit at a time, as it happened. But I'm glad we ended up having to wait. No we've got it all in one fell swoop. 148

Because ultimately, I think what we're seeing is essentially a collapse of the – the final collapse of a lot of the major figures on the mainstreamer side of this. We're seeing a metastasis at this point. And so it does fit in with the larger narrative around the Bowl Patrol and the siegepill community. 149

Like, Vic Mackey has been on many, many shows. He's hanging out with David Duke on live streams lately that don't really get archived. That's where the real energy in the movement in. He's been doing a ton of guest appearances, all over the place. And we'll get into that a little bit here in a minute. 150

This all kind of started on September 8. Andrew Anglin posted a post, Head of TheRightStuff.biz Was a Heroin Dealer on the Run from the Feds in 2012. This is a very long piece, but essentially what happened was, this guy Jayoh de la Ray, who was sort of the fourth chair, kind of the fourth paid employee of The Right Stuff, after Mike Enoch and Jesse Dunstan and Alex McNabb – Jayoh was the fourth in-charge guy, at least that's what we can understand from the outside, nominally the head of security. He does all the in-person stuff, he does all the vetting for people, et cetera et cetera. And he's not been doxed. 151

Well, Anglin doxed him, sort of. 152

It turns out that Jayoh de la Ray, back in 2012, was going by Jim Object. Jim Object, Jay Oh, sort of makes sense. Now, Jim Object also appears to be another pseudonym, so he's not actually been doxed. But they unearthed a podcast from a show called Anarchy Gumbo from 2012. This is where all our anarchist fans are going to start seething, because the right-libertarians were using Anarchist with no modifier for years, and they would describe themselves as anarchists when they were really anarcho-capitalists, and so – I wouldn't even call myself an anarchist. It kind of makes me grit my teeth. 153

Jack:

Yeah, me too. I'm not an anarchist but I have a lot of sympathy for anarchists at times like this. I've joked before that I thought Murray Rothbard's hell would be to spend eternity being stared at by all the actual anarchists who've died in the Spanish civil war. I get it, comrades, I get it. 154

Daniel:

[laughs] So, Jayoh, we'll just call him Jayoh, appeared – it's hard to absolutely confirm this, but Jayoh has a very distinctive voice, I know that voice very well, it's the same fucking voice. It's Jayoh. To the degree that we know any details about Jayoh's background, in terms of who he claims to have been, and his sort of entryist – it all matches up perfectly. There is no real doubt that this is the same guy. 155

So he tells this very tall tale of being a guy who was doing drug dealing activities in Central America and the CIA came after him. And he was flown out at 400 feet from – some guy he barely knew. And he had to inform on some buddies and was – he talks about being a heroin addict back in the day, and being interested in really super hardcore BDSM activities, sleeping next to trans people and doing hardcore drugs. Apparently he claims to have gotten into Harvard while he was on a fourteen-day heroin bender – 156

Jack:

[laughs] 157

Daniel:

It's a really detailed, out-of-this-world kind of backstory for this character. There's a lot of back and forth. Jayoh is claiming, oh, I was writing a novel at the time and I was trying out different characters and seeing how they worked. 158

Jack:

Oh yeah, right. 159

Daniel:

It's really difficult in context. Some of this I think is very true. Some details definitely ring true and then some of it feels very – completely unbelievable. 160

Jack:

Like total bullshit. 161

Daniel:

Right, like total bullshit. The idea, like, I was a drug dealer. He's also claimed in other places, like, I was a mercenary in South Africa and that's like, no, you fucking weren't. You were not a fucking mercenary in South Africa in 2014 or whatever. 162

Interestingly, Anglin is taking this completely seriously, because Anglin is being fucking Anglin and stirring the pot, antagonizing his former buddies over TRS. 163

[Anglin] is saying this guy is clearly a federal informant. He admits to having been a federal informant. He admits to have this quote-unquote degenerate life style of weird sex and hardcore drugs et cetera. And yet he's quote-unquote head of security. He's the security guy. He's the guy doing the vetting of the people who show up to TRS live events. And he has really high level access to the names and addresses of people who would be in – inner-circle TRS people, and people listening to the shows. He presumably has some credit card information. I mean who knows exactly what he has. He's been head of security for a number of years. 164

At least Enoch kind of disputes [this] – oh, he's not the head of our security. But that's pretty clearly, if you've been following these shows at all, it's pretty clear that they let him run the in-person events – what they call the pool parties. He's pretty clearly that guy for the group. He's doing all the vetting and so he has really in-depth connections. 165

And, frankly, I was sitting and thinking about this. So let's take all of that weird backstory out of this, right. Let's take all the nonsense that's in there. Let's say he was a guy who was doing some drugs in 2012 and got caught by the feds and then becomes a federal informant. What would you do? Well, you'd go out there, you'd be the most hardcore, edgy guy of that group, with the intention of entrapping people intro agreeing with you. And you'd put yourself in a place where you had as much as information to give [to] the feds as possible. 166

Jack:

Yeahhh... 167

Daniel:

I don't have confirmation, I mean that's not what here doing here. But if it turns out that Jayoh de la Ray is actually a federal informant, and part of the reason he hasn't been doxed is that they've cleaned his record or something. You know, they've helped him clear that up. [laughs] It's entire possible. 168

I'm kind of just laughing at that and I'm kind of just shrugging my shoulder, but – we know the feds do terrible things to entrap these guy. And I mean, ultimately, one of the things I've been – and I'll take responsibility here – one of the things that I've been bashing TRS with is that unironic exterminationism clip. And that's Jayoh saying that. And the other guys are agreeing with him, but... that's exactly the kind of shit that a federal informant would be doing if he was trying to entrap people into saying things that they don't necessarily agree with. 169

We know for a fact that feds have been doing that for militia groups for years. That's exactly what they do. And so for him to be that prominent seems like – I mean I don't really believe it, and I'm not trying to suggest that necessarily, but it is something that we have to sort of nod [at] and go, it kind of scans. Anyway. 170

So there is that fight going on. 171

Guess how TRS has decided to respond to this. How Mike Enoch has decided to respond to this, on the show. How he's decided to address these issues. They've just started deleting any comments that mention it. He did one short little tweet thread on his old twitter, which – his twitter got wiped, so it doesn't exist anymore. Presumably somebody has the screenshots. But they've not addressed it at all on the show. That I've heard. 172

Jack:

Alright, so they just ignore it in public. 173

Daniel:

They literally do not address these things. They do not discuss these issues. They just ignore it in public. And in fact, just to bring it back to Dingo: at the end of the episode where he was talking about us, he literally brings up this drama, this stuff that's happening, because this is tearing apart people who are fans of Anglin and people who are fans of TRS and people who kind of like both or like neither or whatever. It's a huge bit of infighting that's happening. And Dingo literally says, it's because of people like us, like you and me, it's because of people like me listening to the content and talking about it, and knowing what's going on, and knowing more than the people on that side could possibly imagine that we know – and the fact that we on the quote-unquote anti-fascist side will actually work together and help each other. 174

Dingo recognizes that we're the threat because we can organize and because that side is completely fucked all the time. They just can't get along, at all. 175

For once, Dingo is pretty clueless in a lot of ways. But he's – you know, all I have to do is listen to these guys and talk about it, and suddenly they block me instantly. And they don't to address anything that there is. It's pretty delightful, honestly, just to see – I'm not doing anything except – you should like me, I'm advertising your product to a bigger audience than you have, and yet... 176

Jack:

[sarcastic:] We're hype men. 177

Daniel: Infighting, infighting, infighting. It's glorious. 178

Jack:

It's delicious. 179

Daniel:

I should mention: for a while on Twitter I was kind of pushing – Mike Enoch had, in a couple of places, claimed that David Irving had been sued by Deborah Lipstadt. This was the Irving trial, this is part of the – he had claimed it a couple of times and kind of insisted on it. I was using as sort of a detail that, no, Mike Enoch is lying to you. He's a lying liar who lies. 180

And I think I got under Enoch's skin because at one point he actually had to correct himself, and he goes yeah, I'm a liar, right, I'm a liar. I made a mistake. And it's like, no, you do that all the time. You just don't care about the truth and you spin narratives around it. It's just a really example to use. He said he only did it once, but I know he did it at least twice, but I'd have to go pull up the audio and prove that... Anyway. 181

Jack:

It's the most basic aspect of the case, that he sued her. It's the most basic thing about it. 182

Daniel:

Right. Exactly. 183

Jack:

If you don't know that much, you shouldn't be talking about it. 184

Yeah, you can get details wrong, but [laughs] you shouldn't be getting details like that wrong if you're going to talk about it in public. Because you don't anything about it. So you either don't know anything about it or you're lying. 185

Daniel:

Exactly. Or you just don't care about the details. He has lots of details accurate when they fit an agenda. And then ultimately he just spins tall tales around those, like – at one point they do a whole segment about how Josef Mengele was actually just giving penicillin to Jewish girls, based on some video that they had. And it's just this vile, disgusting thing because it's just completely defending the butcher of Auschwitz, based on nothing, and just laughing about how nonsensically these lying Jews are, et cetera. 186

Jack:

You just take on thing – 187

Daniel:

Those kinds of things draw out of this complete – 188

Jack:

You take one innocent thing that they guy did – 189

Daniel:

You take one detail – 190

Jack:

And then you say, look, he did an innocent thing, what's wrong with that. All Lee Harvey Oswald was doing was going to work. Why does he get the blame? All he did was go to work. You just leave out the rest of the day, don't you. 191

Daniel:

He gets excellent performance reviews. No, he didn't. 192

Right, exactly. 193

So that's just an aside. It's just another – we're part of this story now, and Enoch is very mad at me. For saying he's a lying liar who lies. 194

Jack:

Which he is. 195

Daniel:

Because he is a lying liar who lies. And I'm glad you correct that detail. I can put together a list of the things that he said that are completely incorrect. If he really wants to start correcting the record, we can go through big details and small. Anyway. 196

Jack:

Yeah, that's a dangerous road to start down on for Mr Enoch. 197

Daniel:

Start correcting facts, you know. Actually caring about facts. Providing the links to the things he – maybe you should just stop being a podcaster at some point. Anyway. 198

Jack:

[When you] start down the road of accuracy, eventually you'll have something other than complete bollocks once in a while, and that's your entire business model fucked. Don't start down that road, Mike, just carry on the way you have: lying. 199

Sorry, go on. 200

Daniel:

Again, when I get – I mean, look, there are minor errors of fact in all of these episodes. I go back and relisten to them and, like, okay, yeah. I got the MAGA Peeze thing slightly wrong. I said that Dingo's original co-host was from Australia instead of South Africa. There's a list one or two of those in all of these episodes. 201

I could go through and correct them later. 202

But ultimately they don't affect the larger thing that I'm saying. And when they do, I do make the effort to correct them and make sure that we're actually trying to be as accurate as possible. 203

The thing I get overall from the nazis that email me about this, or message me, et cetera, when they're trying to troll me and clearly taking three sentences out of context or whatever. You actually know exactly what – you get a really good idea of the big picture. They can disagree with interpretation, but they completely agree, like, oh yeah, you know all of these majoryou know what's going on. 204

Can you imagine the nazi version of this podcast? Where they sit on listen to It's Going Down and stuff? And try to summarize for their audience? It's unimaginable, right? 205

Jack:

It is. Completely. 206

Trying to summarize the last episode of Chapo Trap House. [laughs] 207

Daniel:

Imagine trying to – [laughs] I would actually really love it if somebody – please, if some nazis decides to do that I will absolutely listen to that. It would go at the top of my listening list. It would be delightful. Anyway. 208

Jack:

I will actually [inaudible 46:56] 209

Daniel:

There is more drama. 210

Jack:

Sorry, go on, yeah. More drama. 211

Daniel:

There is more drama. Because the after-effects of that for instance – there's this guy Larry Ridgeway, who's kind of minor figure in these things. He's apparently kind of been an original, back-in-the-day Bowl Patrol guy, which only came out recently. We'll get to that. 212

He's long been – he's done a show called The Third Rail for a while, as kind of a regular, rotating co-host. He used to do a show on the Daily Stormer with Asmador, who we talked about in episode 29, the older ex-Klan guy that Vic Mackey does the impression of. 213

He actually used to do a show with that guy, with a distinctive voice. Although when I do the Asmador voice I'm doing more the Vic Mackey version of it than I'm doing the straight Asmador voice, because I just haven't listened to that much of Asmador talk. But anyway, he does have a distinctive voice. 214

So Larry Ridgeway is one of these guys who would do segments for other shows. He's kind of been hovering around TRS for a while. He's been there for four or five years I think. Almost from the beginning. At least since 2016. And he was doing a show called Hate House, which – when everything got rebranded, when like The Daily Shoah started called itself TDS and Fash the Nation started calling itself FTN, et cetera et cetera, he ended up renaming this show Love Street. Because this was kind of show he was co-doing with Asmador and Asmador just threw that title out there as kind of a joke and then it just sort of stuck. Apparently Larry Ridgeway always hated it because he wants to be super edgelord racist, you know – just hate N-words, that's his entire goal. Hate N-words and Jews, that's his goal. 215

He's a pretty nasty figure. Don't get me wrong. 216

Well, apparently he got in a fight with Jayoh after this thing and Jayoh told him – told Larry Ridgeway, you're a one-trick pony, and nobody really likes true. Which is true. Because all he does is just repeat the same jokes over and over again. Which is all any of these guys do. 217

Larry Ridgeway goes on to live stream, and he's deleting all his old content while he's on live stream. He's clearly two or three beers drunk. He's clearly talking out of his ass. He's spilling so much dirt on everything. He reveals that – I thought the rebranding was all based around the lawsuit, and trying to keep some of the naming conventions out of the – you know, so that you're not literally doing a show called The Daily Shoah in public. 218

But it turns out it was all related to the credit card processors. Which makes a ton of sense. It has been revealed that the TRS credit card processor is Stripe. And if you think that shouldn't be a thing maybe you should go tweet at them or something? Just an [idea]. People have been trying to kind of put that thing together, so we'll see how that goes out. 219

But yeah, turns out it was based on the – trying to keep those credit processors processing those credit card payments. 220

Ridgeway is like, I don't give a fuck about my audience, I don't give a fuck about the size my audience anyway. I just want to tell the truth and I want to support white people and all the TRS guys care about is their paywall. Their paywall money. All they care about is continuing to make money off of this. And, man, if there is anything these guys fight over it's money. Who's getting money, who's not. Who's morally pure, who's not. It's, again, delightful. 221

Larry Ridgeway sits there for about two hours and just shits on everybody in the movement. All sides of this. And then about an hour and twenty minutes in, well, he gets on the phone with Vic Mackey and then Vic Mackey comes on. They're just sitting and chatting. And it turns out, Vic Mackey is not allowed on any of the TRS products because Vic Mackey is going to talk about terrorism and shit and, you know, Enoch is smart enough – and I guess Jessey, because he actually owns the corporation – they're smart enough to know not to let certain people on. 222

So, yeah, more of this infighting, more of this collapse as it's moving. 223

That Larry Ridgway rant, I've linked to it. It is up on Youtube. There are a few thousand views on that. I have an archive obviously. I keep all this stuff archives. But you can go watch that if you're inclined. Again, play that at 2x speed, he's very drunk and he's very out of his mind and – I feel like you kind of have to know a lot about this movement from the outside to get a whole lot out of it. But just click around in that. It's pretty hilarious. It's actually pretty delightful to watch. 224

And again, whenever these guys fight, they reveal way more information about their internal dynamics than they even realize they do. I love it when these guys fight. Please just send me the links when you fight. Don't worry, I can just stop listening to the regular content altogether. Just fight amongst yourselves and let me listen to it. 225

Jack:

It's much more fun and much more informative. 226

Daniel:

We're getting up to an hour here and there's like – I'm sorry to just kind of spill the gossip. This is a bit of a fun gossip episode. But we have to talk a little bit about Cantwell. It's news – .it's gossip, it's news. I just kind of put together – I was going to try to organize this a little bit better, but – it's just, let's laugh at how ridiculous [these people are]. 227

The whole thrust of this is to explain both these are awful, terrible people with violent tendencies and a political ideology that's built on overt genocide. Whether that's slow or fast. That's what these guys are. But they're also fucking dipshits who can't get along with each other to save their lives. And they're all a bunch of losers. That's just what they are. 228

Jack:

Yeah. Squabbling, incompetent – 229

Daniel:

Which is why Cantwell just – they just squabble, and if you look at the history of the movement and you read books about the history of these things, they've been doing it at least since World War II and probably – I mean, I'm sure they 60s Klan had the exact same internal infighting about how to make the crosses and shit. Although that wasn't until the 1920s. Anyway. 230

We should close this out and talk a little bit more about Cantwell, because – boy, has Cantwell been – I said the whole Joker movie thing was just par for course for Cantwell right now. Boy, he's been doing – we're not going to get into everything. But – it was revealed, by PaddockSperg, on PaddockSperg's twitter, that Cantwell had been trying to get information out of Michael Hayden. Michael Edison Hayden, who used to work for Newsweek, who was a journalist, and currently works for the Southern Poverty Law Center. 231

Hayden is like, I have sources, I talk to people and if people have information then I take information from them. It's a perfectly reasonable thing for a journalist to do. But Cantwell trying to provide thing to Hayden in exchange for information about his quote-unquote political enemies, which are the Bowl Patrol, is definitely doing anything for Cantwell's reputation at this point. 232

He was trying to get access to Bowlcast 7, which was the missing Bowlcast episode. It turns out the Bowl Patrol guys just re-released that episode. So I'm not sure exactly why that one got deleted for so long, but they did re-release it. You can go listen to it, if you can find it. You probably have to google around for it a bit – or message me, I can provide it to you. It's pretty hilarious because those chats – and it's unclear exactly who he's talking to at any given time – but Cantwell was absolutely offering information to the SPLC and offering to work with the SPLC to get rid of his enemies. So that's just more Cantwell being Cantwell, right. 233

Jack:

He's been reading Machievelli obviously. 234

Daniel:

It's very similar to what he was trying to – [laughs] It's funny he hasn't reached out to me me. I actually know for a fact that somebody did post I Don't Speak German 29, the Bowl Patrol episode – the siegepill episode too – in their Telegram chat. I saw it and I actually created a little throwaway account and mocked them for not finding it until now. 235

Jack:

[laughs] 236

Daniel:

And then I got immediately, summarily dismissed from the group. But it was fun for twenty minutes. 237

Jack:

Free speech! Free speech! 238

Daniel:

[laughs] Oh no, Cantwell doesn't pretend to believe in free speech. Free speech for communists. 239

Jack:

Fair enough. 240

Daniel:

Anybody to the left of Mitt Romney is basically a communist. George W Bush is basically a communist for Cantwell. 241

Anyway. More Cantwell news – so after James Mason released that audio which I told you about earlier – and this is all in the aftermath of this Jarrett Smith arrest, when I think people started realize how serious all this shit was. I said that the James Mason audio is sort of Mason saying, I don't actually support people committing acts of violence, because it's actually not a thing that we should be doing. But at the same time that's exactly what Siege is. He knows exactly where that line is. 242

Cantwell takes him seriously and then plays that entire audio on his show, and then also reads segments from Siege, which are about the need to not commit overt acts of violence. But again, the whole point is that that book is completely self-contradictory and that you can kind of take whatever message you want. Ultimately, there is no real disavowal of violence. There is no real – you support it except to the degree that you can't legally support it. And again, Vic Mackey was on Goy Talk and had exactly that interpretation of Mason's audio. And from everything that we know, Mason is in contact with Atomwaffen Division and Mackey is in contact with Atomwaffen Division. 243

Oh, Atomwaffen Division has now been releasing whole new terrorist propaganda videos, and those go up on the Bowl Patrol channel. So again, if you want to pretend that there is not a connection between Atomwaffen and Bowl Patrol you're a fucking shit. You just don't know anything. 244

So that's kind of where we are right now. The idea that Cantwell is trying to un-siegepill the siegepillers by reading Siege to them – that's just batshit. That's just classic Cantwell. 245

Jack:

It's wonderful. [laughs] 246

Daniel:

And he does this every time one of these shootings happen. You should live for this cause instead of die for it, et cetera et cetera et cetera. You know, in fact he's not wrong. I mean, if you're trying to build a political movement, going out and committing mass shooting is not the way to do that. They're trying to create civil war. They're trying to create Boogaloo. That's not the point here, Chris. 247

Jack:

Yeah, when I laugh at him, let me be clear – in a sense, he's right. Just don't die for the movement. And don't kill other people for the movement. Please. Do not do that. Don't do that. It's just the idea that he's trying to dissuade them by reading Siege at them – 248

Daniel:

He's literally like, in case you haven't read Siege, let me read sections of Siege to you. He literally is missing the forest for the tries. But that's Cantwell, you know. 249

Jack:

It is. 250

Daniel:

He's very much that guy. 251

Jack:

This is the trees as well, so... 252

Daniel:

[laughs] 253

Jack:

He doesn't even get to the forest – 254

Daniel:

There is also a bear. There's a bear rampaging in the woods, kind of coming after him. And he's missing that too and it's about to devour him. 255

Oh god, one more detail. One more detail with Cantwell and then we can end this gossip session. 256

I told you in the Cantwell episode that Cantwell has been subject to this Sines v Kessler civil lawsuit for two years. 257

Jack:

Yup. 258

Daniel:

He's having battles with his laywers because he's not paying them, despite the fact that they were only charging $750 a month, which is chump change for a lawsuit of this magnitude. He's kind of destitute.Anyway, he was trying – he couldn't afford to pay the lawyers and they've been trying to withdraw the case, et cetera. 259

At one point there was filing in the suit, sort of a judgment against Cantwell for not providing documents in the way that he was supposed to. And instead of filing with the court, Cantwell wrote a blog post about it. This incredingly self-pitying, disgusting – I throw myself on the mercy of the court, this is my background and this is all the financial stuff that I've had to deal with, et cetera. 260

He doesn't file it with court. 261

He just posts it on his blog. 262

And then when the court continues to draw sanctions against him, his answer is like, didn't you see my publicly available blog post? Didn't you see that I responded to this on my blog? [sarcastic:] Aren't you following every word that I have to say, all the time? We know that you're obsessed with me. [The] woman who makes $500 an hour for her legal work is clearly listening to every word of the Radical Agenda, three times a week, obviously. 263

No, you have to file your shit with the court. You don't understand the basics of how the law works. This is why you need a lawyer. Even I know that, and I am not a lawyer, but any stretch of the imagination. 264

Jack:

I don't know anything about how the law works, but I know that you can't just write blog posts and except the – [realization sinking in:] what? what? You a fucking bird brain. [laughing] 265

Daniel:

Guess what he does, in response to the motion. The way he responds? He just files a printout of the blog post – 266

Jack:

[laughing:] 267

Daniel:

[laughing:] – with the court. He just prints it out and files it. It's just literally – this legal document, it's just a printout, like – of this blog post. 268

Jack:

[still laughing:] For fuck's sake. Fucking dickhead. Oh god. 269

Daniel:

And then – now that he's been subject to this [litigation] for two years. It's been hanging over his head. It's a sword of Damocles. It's going to crush – this is going to be the final straw. He's going to be done. 270

He's had this thing hanging over his head, he's not paying his lawyers, he's been fighting his lawyers, he's been fighting with the rest of the group and blaming communists for – whatever. And he reveals on his show that he hadn't even been reading the documents. 271

He had no idea what was going on in the lawsuit, because his lawyers were telling him, look, there is nothing here. You can just go off, do your thing, and we're just going to win this case and then – and he's like, I'll just go and be super edgy. And then when there's nothing on me and then I walk away from this, I'm just going to look even cooler. And he wasn't even reading his documents. He had no idea what was going on in the case. 272

Jack:

God almighty. 273

Daniel:

And then when he starts reading the documents, he realizes that a lot of the sourcing for statements that were made in Discord chats – planning for Unite the Right, people threatening violence and stuff. That there were a lot of unsourced statements, a lots of [pseudonymous] people, and then he's convinced that these are leftist infiltrators that are out to destroy him because these are people without a reputation. 274

Chris Cantwell is convinced that Vic Mackey and Goy Talk and all the siegepill community are actually working on our side of this, and are actually out to destroy the movement as a part of destroying the white race, essentially. 275

And this guy Hunter Wallace, who we mentioned briefly I think in episode 8, who is – his real name is Brad Griffin, he's a Southern Nationalist. He's sort of, kind of a buddy of Cantwell's. They did a three-and-a-half-hour Radical Agenda episode, spinning the most bullshit conspiracy theories. Like, the whole movement going back to 2017 has been subverted by these terrorist figures who have glommed on the major figures of the movement and try to tear it down from the inside. And it's just like – I can assure you, if these guys – they could save me a lot of effort if they would just let me know that I can stop listening. Seriously – 276

Jack:

[laughing:] Yeah, just drop [Daniel] a line. You can stop listening – 277

Daniel:

Just let me know, alright? 278

Jack:

[laughing:] – because we're actually on the same side – 279

Daniel:

[laughing:] Just give me the summary of what you're doing, you know. 280

Jack:

Yeah, that's right. Get in touch. If Daniel suddenly stops talking about one of these or two of these people on this show, you'll know which one of them was actually a communist infiltrator that's been in touch to tell us. 281

Daniel:

[laughing:] The leaders of Atomwaffen and Emily Gorcenski, and the Mossad are all just one big group, all working against Chris Cantwell and Mike Enoch. 282

Jack:

Oh god almighty. 283

It really is a demon-haunted world these people live in, isn't it. 284

Oh god. 285

Daniel:

So that was a fun one, sort of. 286

Jack:

Yeah, I agree. [laughing] 287

Daniel:

Hopefully that made sense to people that aren't just you and me, but – ait's fine. It's fun. 288

Next time we're going to get into Kevin McDonald and talk about the Jewish Question. I'm telling you, there is so much more bullshit that's been happening in this world. I literally just gave you the high points of this. There is so much bullshit going on all the time now. The whole thing is in this state of free fall. Anyway. 289

Jack:

So there you go, listeners. We literally just skimmed the surface of the oceanic chasm of nonsense and drivel and paranoia and arguing that's going on. [laughs] 290

Daniel:

Very much so. So, next time we get back into the more – the pseudo-intellectual side of things. And we'll talk about the absolute absurdity that is the Culture of Critique and Kevin McDonald, and explain what this whole Jewish Question is. 291

That will be what we're doing next week, for sure. 292

We're actually going to do that. I've got notes together. It probably won't be quite as goofy as this one, but it will be pretty fucking goofy, because that's just what this world is, at this point. 293

Jack:

Yeah. Because even that, with all the pseudo-intellectualism and the pretense of being a serious piece of work, it's pretty fucking gonzo, isn't it. I've been looking forward to this one. 294

Daniel:

We'll get into it, don't worry. We'll get into it. 295

Jack:

Right. 296

Daniel:

That's it 297

Jack:

So that will be next week. That'll be episode 34. 298

And yeah, that was the news. 299

Exit pursued by a bear. 300

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